Same Table https://www.deepwaterchurch.com/ Deep Water Church info@deepwaterchurch.com Deep Water Church Different people, bringing different perspectives and experiences around the Same table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be a multiethnic church. Different people, bringing different perspectives and experiences around the Same table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be a multiethnic church. en © 2026 Deep Water Church no #3.8 Living a multiethnic Christian life <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 8, we explore the topic “living a multiethnic Christian life” with Deb, and special guest Pastor Nathan Maskery.</p><p><br></p><p>Deb references a personal experience survey in the reflection. Check out this Nova Scotian version of “My Personal Experience Survey”, adapted from the “Multiethnic Conversations Study” in the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a> (p. 24)</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:13 Opening essay</p><p>6:25 Interview with Pastor Nathan Maskery</p><p>25:56 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 8, we explore the topic “living a multiethnic Christian life” with Deb, and special guest Pastor Nathan Maskery.</p><p><br></p><p>Deb references a personal experience survey in the reflection. Check out this Nova Scotian version of “My Personal Experience Survey”, adapted from the “Multiethnic Conversations Study” in the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a> (p. 24)</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:13 Opening essay</p><p>6:25 Interview with Pastor Nathan Maskery</p><p>25:56 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 8, we explore the topic “living a multiethnic Christian life” with Deb, and special guest Pastor Nathan Maskery.


Deb references a personal experience survey in the reflection. Check out this Nova Scotian version of “My Personal Experience Survey”, adapted from the “Multiethnic Conversations Study” in the companion guide (p. 24)


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:13 Opening essay

6:25 Interview with Pastor Nathan Maskery

25:56 Reflection


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The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com 

]]> Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000 1786 1 39fbde1da55683683eacaa7d150fc491 no #3.7 How should the church respond? <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 7, we explore the question “how should the church respond” with Colin, as he reflects on the character of Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:11 Opening essay</p><p>7:33 A case study of Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino</p><p>12:06 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 7, we explore the question “how should the church respond” with Colin, as he reflects on the character of Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:11 Opening essay</p><p>7:33 A case study of Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino</p><p>12:06 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 7, we explore the question “how should the church respond” with Colin, as he reflects on the character of Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino.


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:11 Opening essay

7:33 A case study of Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino

12:06 Reflection


—---------------------


The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com

]]> Mon, 15 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000 813 2 4a4c50e37a25d814a2051ecd78c1ad9d no #3.6 How should I respond? <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 6, we explore the question “how should I respond” with Kayler and special guest Michelle Hadisunjoto, who reflects on her journey since completing the Multiethnic Conversation Study. </p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:13 Opening essay</p><p>9:10 Interview with Michelle Hadisunjoto</p><p>26:13 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a></p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 6, we explore the question “how should I respond” with Kayler and special guest Michelle Hadisunjoto, who reflects on her journey since completing the Multiethnic Conversation Study. </p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:13 Opening essay</p><p>9:10 Interview with Michelle Hadisunjoto</p><p>26:13 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a></p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 6, we explore the question “how should I respond” with Kayler and special guest Michelle Hadisunjoto, who reflects on her journey since completing the Multiethnic Conversation Study. 


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:13 Opening essay

9:10 Interview with Michelle Hadisunjoto

26:13 Reflection


—---------------------


The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com

]]> Mon, 08 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000 1734 3 a894729a1aa794be71c2655c777bd065 no #3.5 What God is doing <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 5, we explore the topic “what God is doing” with Matthew and special guest, Mischaela Wong, who helps us see the ways God is working in the next generation.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:13 Opening essay</p><p>6:45 Interview with Mischaela</p><p>25:57 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 5, we explore the topic “what God is doing” with Matthew and special guest, Mischaela Wong, who helps us see the ways God is working in the next generation.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:13 Opening essay</p><p>6:45 Interview with Mischaela</p><p>25:57 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 5, we explore the topic “what God is doing” with Matthew and special guest, Mischaela Wong, who helps us see the ways God is working in the next generation.


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:13 Opening essay

6:45 Interview with Mischaela

25:57 Reflection


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The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com

]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000 1687 4 939b76763bc2c136d83c8b853b563cec no #3.4 Systemic Issues <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 4, we explore the topic “systemic issues” with Matthew and special guest, Danny Zacharias. </p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:12 Opening essay</p><p>6:27 Interview with Danny Zacharias</p><p>37:07 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>For related conversations:</p><p>We interviewed Danny Zacharias in 2022 on the topic: Systemic Racism & Biblical Justice (<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0lMPtX879NGgvZUWK2LttN?si=d6610ce9045f4dff" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/episode-3-systemic-racism-biblical-justice/id1611216458?i=1000650413967" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple</a> | <a href="https://youtu.be/Buq0cFBhcJE?si=5jNyG7IZdvvuhj7p" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">YouTube</a>), and unpacked the gospel of Jesus that includes social justice with Rhonda Britton (<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/54qOy7qrcrGsn7HjHPmmJ4?si=f74809c300fb4922" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/2-2-the-gospel-of-jesus-includes-social-justice/id1611216458?i=1000656830840" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple</a> | <a href="https://youtu.be/fyW901FcQ4Y?si=Fhb3zzFMOAWeGK5c" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">YouTube</a>).</p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 4, we explore the topic “systemic issues” with Matthew and special guest, Danny Zacharias. </p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:12 Opening essay</p><p>6:27 Interview with Danny Zacharias</p><p>37:07 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>For related conversations:</p><p>We interviewed Danny Zacharias in 2022 on the topic: Systemic Racism & Biblical Justice (<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0lMPtX879NGgvZUWK2LttN?si=d6610ce9045f4dff" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/episode-3-systemic-racism-biblical-justice/id1611216458?i=1000650413967" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple</a> | <a href="https://youtu.be/Buq0cFBhcJE?si=5jNyG7IZdvvuhj7p" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">YouTube</a>), and unpacked the gospel of Jesus that includes social justice with Rhonda Britton (<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/54qOy7qrcrGsn7HjHPmmJ4?si=f74809c300fb4922" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/2-2-the-gospel-of-jesus-includes-social-justice/id1611216458?i=1000656830840" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple</a> | <a href="https://youtu.be/fyW901FcQ4Y?si=Fhb3zzFMOAWeGK5c" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">YouTube</a>).</p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 4, we explore the topic “systemic issues” with Matthew and special guest, Danny Zacharias. 


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:12 Opening essay

6:27 Interview with Danny Zacharias

37:07 Reflection


For related conversations:

We interviewed Danny Zacharias in 2022 on the topic: Systemic Racism & Biblical Justice (Spotify | Apple | YouTube), and unpacked the gospel of Jesus that includes social justice with Rhonda Britton (Spotify | Apple | YouTube).

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The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com 

]]> Mon, 25 May 2026 10:00:00 +0000 2367 5 c5f3926e30641317e1f3106636924bdc no #3.3 Obstacles to Date <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 3, we explore the topic “obstacles to date” with Colin. Matthew interviews Dr. Jason Chatman, a Dalhousie University professor and clinical psychologist to understand how our unconscious biases are formed.</p><p><br></p><p>For personal stories around unconscious bias from AJ Thomas, Matthew, and Deb, check out this Same Table podcast episode recorded in March 2022: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4V8Fo9RbjJZ2IdVvP62VQp?si=c326455599404e87" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/episode-2-unconscious-bias/id1611216458?i=1000650414041" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple</a> | <a href="https://youtu.be/Gnc0iWWV-Q8?si=XEr9A522wMIvbr9u" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:12 Opening essay</p><p>4:15 Interview with Dr. Jason Chatman</p><p>30:00 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 3, we explore the topic “obstacles to date” with Colin. Matthew interviews Dr. Jason Chatman, a Dalhousie University professor and clinical psychologist to understand how our unconscious biases are formed.</p><p><br></p><p>For personal stories around unconscious bias from AJ Thomas, Matthew, and Deb, check out this Same Table podcast episode recorded in March 2022: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4V8Fo9RbjJZ2IdVvP62VQp?si=c326455599404e87" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/episode-2-unconscious-bias/id1611216458?i=1000650414041" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple</a> | <a href="https://youtu.be/Gnc0iWWV-Q8?si=XEr9A522wMIvbr9u" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:12 Opening essay</p><p>4:15 Interview with Dr. Jason Chatman</p><p>30:00 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 3, we explore the topic “obstacles to date” with Colin. Matthew interviews Dr. Jason Chatman, a Dalhousie University professor and clinical psychologist to understand how our unconscious biases are formed.


For personal stories around unconscious bias from AJ Thomas, Matthew, and Deb, check out this Same Table podcast episode recorded in March 2022: Spotify | Apple | YouTube


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:12 Opening essay

4:15 Interview with Dr. Jason Chatman

30:00 Reflection


—---------------------


The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com 

]]> Sun, 03 May 2026 10:00:00 +0000 1866 6 49d5f82578559743886dd1520ba75d6a no #3.2 Why Now? <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 2 we explore the question “why now?” with Kayler and a continued conversation between Deb and our special guest, Mark DeYmaz. </p><p><br></p><p>For additional resources and contextualized suggestions , read “Week 2: Why now?” in this <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:33 Opening essay</p><p>4:53 Interview with Mark DeYmaz</p><p>35:13 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p><p><br></p><p><br></p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 2 we explore the question “why now?” with Kayler and a continued conversation between Deb and our special guest, Mark DeYmaz. </p><p><br></p><p>For additional resources and contextualized suggestions , read “Week 2: Why now?” in this <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:33 Opening essay</p><p>4:53 Interview with Mark DeYmaz</p><p>35:13 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p><p><br></p><p><br></p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 2 we explore the question “why now?” with Kayler and a continued conversation between Deb and our special guest, Mark DeYmaz. 


For additional resources and contextualized suggestions , read “Week 2: Why now?” in this companion guide.


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


TIMESTAMPS:

0:33 Opening essay

4:53 Interview with Mark DeYmaz

35:13 Reflection


—---------------------


The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com 



]]> Wed, 08 Apr 2026 10:00:00 +0000 2203 7 f9f64c9f8ab57af35d31e4f4f4ea4f2a no #3.1 Why multiethnic? <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 1, we explore the question “why multiethnic?” with Deb and special guest, Mark DeYmaz. </p><p><br></p><p>For sources and more in depth statistics, read “Week 1: Why multiethnic?” in this <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Deb referenced a personal experience survey that has been helpful in her own journey. Check out this Nova Scotian version of “My Personal Experience Survey”, adapted from the “Multiethnic Conversations Study” in the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a> (p.7).</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, <a href="https://wphstore.com/products/multiethnic-conversations?variant=44433997562052" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">you can find it here</a> (eBook version, and analog versions available).</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:17 Opening essay</p><p>6:18 Interview with Mark DeYmaz</p><p>25:17 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>In episode 1, we explore the question “why multiethnic?” with Deb and special guest, Mark DeYmaz. </p><p><br></p><p>For sources and more in depth statistics, read “Week 1: Why multiethnic?” in this <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Deb referenced a personal experience survey that has been helpful in her own journey. Check out this Nova Scotian version of “My Personal Experience Survey”, adapted from the “Multiethnic Conversations Study” in the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVMuvguMSfGjjt3m1u5OcZsw1ICk5Ml3/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">companion guide</a> (p.7).</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, <a href="https://wphstore.com/products/multiethnic-conversations?variant=44433997562052" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">you can find it here</a> (eBook version, and analog versions available).</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>0:17 Opening essay</p><p>6:18 Interview with Mark DeYmaz</p><p>25:17 Reflection</p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


In episode 1, we explore the question “why multiethnic?” with Deb and special guest, Mark DeYmaz. 


For sources and more in depth statistics, read “Week 1: Why multiethnic?” in this companion guide.


Deb referenced a personal experience survey that has been helpful in her own journey. Check out this Nova Scotian version of “My Personal Experience Survey”, adapted from the “Multiethnic Conversations Study” in the companion guide (p.7).


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, you can find it here (eBook version, and analog versions available).


TIMESTAMPS:

0:17 Opening essay

6:18 Interview with Mark DeYmaz

25:17 Reflection


—---------------------


The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com

]]> Thu, 05 Mar 2026 10:00:00 +0000 1614 8 726890bf9232193059236888ff7f4ef5 no #3.0 Meet the new hosts for Season 3 <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>As always, we start with episode 0 where we introduce you to our hosts. This season, you’ll journey with Colin, Deb, Kayler, and Matthew as we unpack some themes, chat with guests, and guide you in a reflection. </p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the Multiethnic Conversations Study, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> <p>This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>As always, we start with episode 0 where we introduce you to our hosts. This season, you’ll journey with Colin, Deb, Kayler, and Matthew as we unpack some themes, chat with guests, and guide you in a reflection. </p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the Multiethnic Conversations Study, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): <a href="https://a.co/d/051EElt0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/051EElt0</a></p><p><br></p><p>—---------------------</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.</p><p><br></p><p>We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.</p><p><br></p><p>The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. <a href="http://deepwaterchurch.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">deepwaterchurch.com</a> </p> This season of the Same Table podcast is designed to be a companion to the “Multiethnic Conversations Study”, written by Mark DeYmaz and Oneya Fennell Okuwobi. The 8-week study corresponds to this season's 8 episodes.


As always, we start with episode 0 where we introduce you to our hosts. This season, you’ll journey with Colin, Deb, Kayler, and Matthew as we unpack some themes, chat with guests, and guide you in a reflection. 


If you’d like to follow along with your own copy of the Multiethnic Conversations Study, you can find it here (Kindle version, and analog versions available): https://a.co/d/051EElt0


—---------------------


The Same Table is a place where stories from different cultures, ethnicities, and perspectives are always welcome. We gather around the table where we can hold differences in tension because we take Jesus at his word: that he draws all people to himself. As we journey with each other, we get to display his beautiful vision of a diverse family.


We delve into stories across Canada, with a special focus on the east coast, with our hearts set on building a multiethnic, multicultural, intercultural family of God.


The Same Table is a Deep Water Church podcast, produced by Deb Wong and Matthew Thomas. deepwaterchurch.com 

]]> Sun, 22 Feb 2026 10:00:00 +0000 1163 9 6c26f3c430a6ffa0cb602824bcc7ad94 no 2.6 The hard work of healing Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Matthew and Deb get real and honest about their own journey toward healing from racialized trauma and hurt. As they share their own experiences of pain, they also talk about ways they have seen hope.</p> <p>Matthew and Deb get real and honest about their own journey toward healing from racialized trauma and hurt. As they share their own experiences of pain, they also talk about ways they have seen hope.</p> Matthew and Deb get real and honest about their own journey toward healing from racialized trauma and hurt. As they share their own experiences of pain, they also talk about ways they have seen hope.

]]> Mon, 17 Jun 2024 10:00:00 +0000 3610 10 2d639735cec1d9a84787572a0bde79fe no #2.5 It's not too late to discover your story with Pastor Colin Colin Wallace, Deborah Wong <p>Settle in for storytime with Colin as he shares about his own journey in understanding his culture and ethnicity. Discovering the other half of his birth family has been a story decades in the making, and one that has brought a deeper knowing of God’s goodness to Colin.</p> <p>Settle in for storytime with Colin as he shares about his own journey in understanding his culture and ethnicity. Discovering the other half of his birth family has been a story decades in the making, and one that has brought a deeper knowing of God’s goodness to Colin.</p> Settle in for storytime with Colin as he shares about his own journey in understanding his culture and ethnicity. Discovering the other half of his birth family has been a story decades in the making, and one that has brought a deeper knowing of God’s goodness to Colin.

]]> Mon, 27 May 2024 10:00:00 +0000 3686 11 20ee9da3c6b06d2767de07861820248b no #2.4 Aftershow: How immigration policies shape a church and community with Pastor Szeto Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Matthew grills Deb seeking to learn all about her experience growing up in a Chinese immigrant church. They reflect on the encouragement Pastor Szeto left as it relates to shaping a multi-ethnic church, locally and globally. Listen in and consider what giftings you bring to your church, especially the story God has given you!</p><p><br></p><p>Watch the episode with Pastor Szeto <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZoB9DVkx8&t=0s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">  </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZoB9DVkx8&t=0s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#2.4 How immigration policies shape a church and community with Pastor Szeto</a></p> <p>Matthew grills Deb seeking to learn all about her experience growing up in a Chinese immigrant church. They reflect on the encouragement Pastor Szeto left as it relates to shaping a multi-ethnic church, locally and globally. Listen in and consider what giftings you bring to your church, especially the story God has given you!</p><p><br></p><p>Watch the episode with Pastor Szeto <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZoB9DVkx8&t=0s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">  </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZoB9DVkx8&t=0s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#2.4 How immigration policies shape a church and community with Pastor Szeto</a></p> Matthew grills Deb seeking to learn all about her experience growing up in a Chinese immigrant church. They reflect on the encouragement Pastor Szeto left as it relates to shaping a multi-ethnic church, locally and globally. Listen in and consider what giftings you bring to your church, especially the story God has given you!


Watch the episode with Pastor Szeto   

#2.4 How immigration policies shape a church and community with Pastor Szeto

]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 10:00:00 +0000 1758 12 cab5a51feb7654450d700537cdd5c9fd no #2.2: The gospel of Jesus includes social justice with Dr. Rhonda Britton Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Being the first female pastor of a historical African Nova Scotian church, Dr. Rhonda Britton shares the joys and challenges of leading New Horizons Baptist Church in the ever-changing landscape of the community around her. From the overflow of God’s grace and promise of liberation, Rev. Britton challenges us to grow in caring for the needs in our city as an integral way of living out the gospel of Jesus.</p> <p>Being the first female pastor of a historical African Nova Scotian church, Dr. Rhonda Britton shares the joys and challenges of leading New Horizons Baptist Church in the ever-changing landscape of the community around her. From the overflow of God’s grace and promise of liberation, Rev. Britton challenges us to grow in caring for the needs in our city as an integral way of living out the gospel of Jesus.</p> Being the first female pastor of a historical African Nova Scotian church, Dr. Rhonda Britton shares the joys and challenges of leading New Horizons Baptist Church in the ever-changing landscape of the community around her. From the overflow of God’s grace and promise of liberation, Rev. Britton challenges us to grow in caring for the needs in our city as an integral way of living out the gospel of Jesus.

]]> Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:00:00 +0000 3833 13 10b5f2bc8d554a4dfb43b82d47386c26 no #2.4 How immigration policies shape a church and community with Pastor Szeto Colin Wallace, Deborah Wong <p>Trace the history of the Chinese church in Halifax with Pastor Szeto as he shares how serving an immigrant community ebbs and flows with the policies and practices of the Canadian government and local university institutions. As immigration policies continue to shape our city, Pastor Szeto shares lessons he has learned in ministry and how a church like Deep Water can grow in its multiethnic journey.</p> <p>Trace the history of the Chinese church in Halifax with Pastor Szeto as he shares how serving an immigrant community ebbs and flows with the policies and practices of the Canadian government and local university institutions. As immigration policies continue to shape our city, Pastor Szeto shares lessons he has learned in ministry and how a church like Deep Water can grow in its multiethnic journey.</p> Trace the history of the Chinese church in Halifax with Pastor Szeto as he shares how serving an immigrant community ebbs and flows with the policies and practices of the Canadian government and local university institutions. As immigration policies continue to shape our city, Pastor Szeto shares lessons he has learned in ministry and how a church like Deep Water can grow in its multiethnic journey.

]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 10:00:00 +0000 3820 14 70101a3dd3c0dfa29c95f309dd05e8bb no #2.1 Aftershow: The help and harm of categories Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas, Samuel Prime <p>What if you’ve never really thought about your culture or ethnicity as a category? Sam can relate! Join the Aftershow trio as they digest the topic of categorization a bit further, and keep the conversation going.</p> <p>What if you’ve never really thought about your culture or ethnicity as a category? Sam can relate! Join the Aftershow trio as they digest the topic of categorization a bit further, and keep the conversation going.</p> What if you’ve never really thought about your culture or ethnicity as a category? Sam can relate! Join the Aftershow trio as they digest the topic of categorization a bit further, and keep the conversation going.

]]> Sat, 24 Feb 2024 10:00:00 +0000 1416 15 ac7c6eba2089c5584677e0888c885e15 no #2.3 Aftershow: Ji-gaabiikwe and Matt Leblanc - Honouring Indigenous Stories Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Matthew and Deb chat about the thought-provoking conversation they received from Matt and Ji-gaabiikwe, and ways they seek ongoing learning. </p><p><br></p><p>Here is the course mentioned for further learning: https://courses.<a href="http://baptist-atlantic.ca/course/walking-in-a-good-way-with-our-indigenous-neighbours" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">baptist-atlantic.ca/course/walking-in-a-good-way-with-our-indigenous-neighbours/</a></p> <p>Matthew and Deb chat about the thought-provoking conversation they received from Matt and Ji-gaabiikwe, and ways they seek ongoing learning. </p><p><br></p><p>Here is the course mentioned for further learning: https://courses.<a href="http://baptist-atlantic.ca/course/walking-in-a-good-way-with-our-indigenous-neighbours" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">baptist-atlantic.ca/course/walking-in-a-good-way-with-our-indigenous-neighbours/</a></p> Matthew and Deb chat about the thought-provoking conversation they received from Matt and Ji-gaabiikwe, and ways they seek ongoing learning.


Here is the course mentioned for further learning: https://courses.baptist-atlantic.ca/course/walking-in-a-good-way-with-our-indigenous-neighbours/

]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:00:00 +0000 1641 16 4fcb6dc3cc7d223bbab88daa00b03560 no #2.3 Ji-gaabiikwe and Matt Leblanc: Honouring Indigenous stories Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Matt Leblanc and Ji-gaabiikwe serve, lead, and care for Indigenous youth and communities through iEmergence, a member of the Indigenous Pathways family. Get a glimpse into two different journeys of discovery, healing, faith, and helping the next generation, as Matt and Ji-gaabiikwe invite us into a deeper inspection of the roots of our faith and cultural traditions.</p> <p>Matt Leblanc and Ji-gaabiikwe serve, lead, and care for Indigenous youth and communities through iEmergence, a member of the Indigenous Pathways family. Get a glimpse into two different journeys of discovery, healing, faith, and helping the next generation, as Matt and Ji-gaabiikwe invite us into a deeper inspection of the roots of our faith and cultural traditions.</p> Matt Leblanc and Ji-gaabiikwe serve, lead, and care for Indigenous youth and communities through iEmergence, a member of the Indigenous Pathways family. Get a glimpse into two different journeys of discovery, healing, faith, and helping the next generation, as Matt and Ji-gaabiikwe invite us into a deeper inspection of the roots of our faith and cultural traditions.

]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:00:00 +0000 4451 17 aba42ede82848446d7f8cdd4116caeca no #2.2 Aftershow: The gospel of Jesus includes social justice with Dr. Rhonda Britton Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Matthew shares additional backstory highlighting the cost of reconciliation. Deb reflects on Dr. Britton’s resilience. Sam reflects on how he has been challenged in caring for those experiencing homelessness. Join the aftershow trio and consider how you can respond!</p> <p>Matthew shares additional backstory highlighting the cost of reconciliation. Deb reflects on Dr. Britton’s resilience. Sam reflects on how he has been challenged in caring for those experiencing homelessness. Join the aftershow trio and consider how you can respond!</p> Matthew shares additional backstory highlighting the cost of reconciliation. Deb reflects on Dr. Britton’s resilience. Sam reflects on how he has been challenged in caring for those experiencing homelessness. Join the aftershow trio and consider how you can respond!

]]> Sat, 02 Mar 2024 10:00:00 +0000 1229 18 ccd732c7ce202537cb34ccd563538646 no #2.1: The help and harm of categories Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Deb and Matthew explore how understanding categories we give ourselves and each other can be helpful and harmful, especially when navigating topics of race, ethnicity, and culture. </p> <p>Deb and Matthew explore how understanding categories we give ourselves and each other can be helpful and harmful, especially when navigating topics of race, ethnicity, and culture. </p> Deb and Matthew explore how understanding categories we give ourselves and each other can be helpful and harmful, especially when navigating topics of race, ethnicity, and culture.

]]> Sat, 24 Feb 2024 10:00:00 +0000 2445 19 5ed02eb3cd816ee0aeee860268b89c07 no #2.0: It took a minute, but we’re back at the table + the aftershow Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>Co-hosts Deb and Matthew chat about what’s coming up for season two, share a little life update, and unveil the addition of a new mini-sode called the Aftershow. </p><p><br></p><p>This podcast brings different people, perspectives and experiences around the Same Table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be multiethnic and multicultural.</p> <p>Co-hosts Deb and Matthew chat about what’s coming up for season two, share a little life update, and unveil the addition of a new mini-sode called the Aftershow. </p><p><br></p><p>This podcast brings different people, perspectives and experiences around the Same Table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be multiethnic and multicultural.</p> Co-hosts Deb and Matthew chat about what’s coming up for season two, share a little life update, and unveil the addition of a new mini-sode called the Aftershow. 


This podcast brings different people, perspectives and experiences around the Same Table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be multiethnic and multicultural.

]]> Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:00:00 +0000 1851 20 1bbd4999b0e8e6080d9aef2fb1063ca9 no Episode 4: What We Have Learned So Far Final Episode of Season One AJ Thomas, Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>As we wrap season one, Matthew, AJ, and Deb reflect on the conversations so far through what they have experienced in their own growth, and what they have been learning from guests from season one and each other. <br><br>Stay tuned for season two of Same Table podcast!</p> <p>As we wrap season one, Matthew, AJ, and Deb reflect on the conversations so far through what they have experienced in their own growth, and what they have been learning from guests from season one and each other. <br><br>Stay tuned for season two of Same Table podcast!</p> As we wrap season one, Matthew, AJ, and Deb reflect on the conversations so far through what they have experienced in their own growth, and what they have been learning from guests from season one and each other.

Stay tuned for season two of Same Table podcast!

]]> Wed, 01 Jun 2022 10:00:00 +0000 3906 21 e9e48f931610beafae27b32da4d78d48 no Episode 3: Systemic Racism & Biblical Justice Danny Zacharias, Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>On this episode of Same Table, we hear from an Indigenous perspective about what systemic racism looks like in Canada, and how followers of Jesus can grow in biblical justice. <br><br>Join us as we learn from our host Matthew Thomas, special guest Dr. Danny Zacharias, and co-host Deb Wong. <br><br>Dr. Danny Zacharias is an assistant professor at Acadia Divinity College, a NAIITS faculty member, and ordained with the Canadian Baptists of Atlantic Canada. <br><br>*** Please note that this episode was recorded prior to the Indigenous delegation to Rome and the papal apology at the end of March 2022. In the podcast, Danny directly references the TRC Call to Action requesting the Pope's apology (and how it had not been done).</p> <p>On this episode of Same Table, we hear from an Indigenous perspective about what systemic racism looks like in Canada, and how followers of Jesus can grow in biblical justice. <br><br>Join us as we learn from our host Matthew Thomas, special guest Dr. Danny Zacharias, and co-host Deb Wong. <br><br>Dr. Danny Zacharias is an assistant professor at Acadia Divinity College, a NAIITS faculty member, and ordained with the Canadian Baptists of Atlantic Canada. <br><br>*** Please note that this episode was recorded prior to the Indigenous delegation to Rome and the papal apology at the end of March 2022. In the podcast, Danny directly references the TRC Call to Action requesting the Pope's apology (and how it had not been done).</p> On this episode of Same Table, we hear from an Indigenous perspective about what systemic racism looks like in Canada, and how followers of Jesus can grow in biblical justice.

Join us as we learn from our host Matthew Thomas, special guest Dr. Danny Zacharias, and co-host Deb Wong.

Dr. Danny Zacharias is an assistant professor at Acadia Divinity College, a NAIITS faculty member, and ordained with the Canadian Baptists of Atlantic Canada.

*** Please note that this episode was recorded prior to the Indigenous delegation to Rome and the papal apology at the end of March 2022. In the podcast, Danny directly references the TRC Call to Action requesting the Pope's apology (and how it had not been done).

]]> Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:00:00 +0000 4173 22 9174b9badde36679201f95a4d84f76f5 no Episode 2: Unconscious Bias AJ Thomas, Deborah Wong, Matthew Thomas <p>On this episode of Same Table, host Matthew Thomas explores unconscious bias with co-hosts AJ Thomas and Deb Wong. With perspectives of African Nova Scotian, white Canadian, and second generation immigrant Canadian at the same table, the conversation brings forward the impact of internal and external unconscious bias, and how to move towards growth.</p> <p>On this episode of Same Table, host Matthew Thomas explores unconscious bias with co-hosts AJ Thomas and Deb Wong. With perspectives of African Nova Scotian, white Canadian, and second generation immigrant Canadian at the same table, the conversation brings forward the impact of internal and external unconscious bias, and how to move towards growth.</p> On this episode of Same Table, host Matthew Thomas explores unconscious bias with co-hosts AJ Thomas and Deb Wong. With perspectives of African Nova Scotian, white Canadian, and second generation immigrant Canadian at the same table, the conversation brings forward the impact of internal and external unconscious bias, and how to move towards growth.

]]> Mon, 21 Mar 2022 10:00:00 +0000 5194 23 abbc5d161be3896c6fe5def73c10cc6b no Episode 1: Reconciliation While Black AJ Thomas, Matthew Thomas, Rev. Dr. Lennett J Anderson <p>On this episode of Same Table, we hear stories of the African Nova Scotian experience and the role of the black church in the journey towards Racial Reconciliation. Join us as we learn from our podcast host Matthew Thomas, co-host AJ Thomas, and guest speaker Rev. Dr. Lennett J Anderson, Lead Pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church (The Meeting Place) in Upper Hammonds Plains, Nova Scotia.</p> <p>On this episode of Same Table, we hear stories of the African Nova Scotian experience and the role of the black church in the journey towards Racial Reconciliation. Join us as we learn from our podcast host Matthew Thomas, co-host AJ Thomas, and guest speaker Rev. Dr. Lennett J Anderson, Lead Pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church (The Meeting Place) in Upper Hammonds Plains, Nova Scotia.</p> On this episode of Same Table, we hear stories of the African Nova Scotian experience and the role of the black church in the journey towards Racial Reconciliation. Join us as we learn from our podcast host Matthew Thomas, co-host AJ Thomas, and guest speaker Rev. Dr. Lennett J Anderson, Lead Pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church (The Meeting Place) in Upper Hammonds Plains, Nova Scotia.

]]> Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:00:00 +0000 3643 24 500b7df889edc995a7219aa7876174e0 no Episode 0: What is the Same Table Podcast? Matthew Thomas <p>Different people, bringing different perspectives and experiences around the Same table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be a multiethnic church.</p> <p>Different people, bringing different perspectives and experiences around the Same table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be a multiethnic church.</p> Different people, bringing different perspectives and experiences around the Same table to talk about ways the church can live out what it means to be a multiethnic church.

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